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5 years 9 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago #16840
by Libero
The markets eh? The final frontier in some people's eyes 
They said it's "forward looking", but I'm looking at a new new new new normal here, and I don't see full jets, packed cinemas and cruise ships just yet. So, who then decides what timeframes the markets look to?
Is it all the companies vying for a vaccine? Is it the lack of chatter about "what if" (as in, what if a second wave is coming? what if the vaccine is bringing with it 2nd order issues? what if this heralds a new "era" in uncontrollable outbreaks, and souring trade relations on top of global nationalism?
(oh, forgot to mention, dire FORWARD GDP, dire S&P forward earnings too)
The markets, right now, don't care one bit; "trade what you see" is a message I frequently hear and see, and that's cool, but I'm gonna hold for long.
TrendFriend - great chart again, and it could be a crazy correction, but I'd go with your earlier assertion that it's not done yet - not because I want to believe etc... but because forward-thinking or not, the market has no real structure, the only thing that's true out of all of this is: "Don't Fight the Fed".
The Fed doesn't need to buy equities directly (they don't), but they can buy the debts of companies, they can buy ETFs, they can create an environment where money has no place to go other than into stocks. All this means, a big bounce - but not without (bigger) risks of its own.
Longterm_view - I'm watching the 61.8 line like a hawk, and remember, the move to the 50ma was built on low volumes; again where's the structure - are the market internals sound? We'll see I guess!
Remo (and Jackozy too if he's reading this!) - would love to see Bull / Bear cases some time - I might give it a try myself over the weekend.
Be Safe folks!
They said it's "forward looking", but I'm looking at a new new new new normal here, and I don't see full jets, packed cinemas and cruise ships just yet. So, who then decides what timeframes the markets look to?
Is it all the companies vying for a vaccine? Is it the lack of chatter about "what if" (as in, what if a second wave is coming? what if the vaccine is bringing with it 2nd order issues? what if this heralds a new "era" in uncontrollable outbreaks, and souring trade relations on top of global nationalism?
(oh, forgot to mention, dire FORWARD GDP, dire S&P forward earnings too)
The markets, right now, don't care one bit; "trade what you see" is a message I frequently hear and see, and that's cool, but I'm gonna hold for long.
TrendFriend - great chart again, and it could be a crazy correction, but I'd go with your earlier assertion that it's not done yet - not because I want to believe etc... but because forward-thinking or not, the market has no real structure, the only thing that's true out of all of this is: "Don't Fight the Fed".
The Fed doesn't need to buy equities directly (they don't), but they can buy the debts of companies, they can buy ETFs, they can create an environment where money has no place to go other than into stocks. All this means, a big bounce - but not without (bigger) risks of its own.
Longterm_view - I'm watching the 61.8 line like a hawk, and remember, the move to the 50ma was built on low volumes; again where's the structure - are the market internals sound? We'll see I guess!
Remo (and Jackozy too if he's reading this!) - would love to see Bull / Bear cases some time - I might give it a try myself over the weekend.
Be Safe folks!
Last edit: 5 years 9 months ago by Libero.
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5 years 9 months ago #16839
by Trendfriend
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dow - daily
uk.advfn.com/p.php?pid=chartscreenshotsh...wLLgYifR3uAv4nm0U%3D
this keeps on going up and up and up!
Something does seem to happen around this 50 day ema line...
second time we had a p/b from that area....
The 200 day ema line is also key imho....technically in a down trend while below that feature
the 50 day ema line is at 23997....the 20 day ema is 23353.
If i draw a trend channel as in my chart...then in between we have the trendline....
so this hasn't run away as far as we think from these key levels.....and i still think a substantial down move should take place here.....quite possibly even a lower low....
If it doesn't then i will clean some egg of my face...
perhaps more importantly if this does runaway higher from here....i would question if this was a bear market at all??!!
or just a strong correction?
lets see what this does first!
atb, wdik,dyor,
trendfriend
uk.advfn.com/p.php?pid=chartscreenshotsh...wLLgYifR3uAv4nm0U%3D
this keeps on going up and up and up!
Something does seem to happen around this 50 day ema line...
second time we had a p/b from that area....
The 200 day ema line is also key imho....technically in a down trend while below that feature
the 50 day ema line is at 23997....the 20 day ema is 23353.
If i draw a trend channel as in my chart...then in between we have the trendline....
so this hasn't run away as far as we think from these key levels.....and i still think a substantial down move should take place here.....quite possibly even a lower low....
If it doesn't then i will clean some egg of my face...
perhaps more importantly if this does runaway higher from here....i would question if this was a bear market at all??!!
or just a strong correction?
lets see what this does first!
atb, wdik,dyor,
trendfriend
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5 years 9 months ago #16837
by longterm_view
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Dropped at the end, but still held the 50ma I believe.
Only the 61.8 fib at around 25220, to hold this back.
If not, I should have bought.
Only the 61.8 fib at around 25220, to hold this back.
If not, I should have bought.
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5 years 9 months ago #16831
by Inside Informant
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5 years 10 months ago #16821
by Trendfriend
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dow - daily.
uk.advfn.com/p.php?pid=chartscreenshotsh...HI9qkcwtkXWoUXi6o%3D
starting to drop a tad here...
22941 is the key for a lower low imvho....if it goes below that we could see a stronger move down...
atb, wdik,dyor,
trendfriend
uk.advfn.com/p.php?pid=chartscreenshotsh...HI9qkcwtkXWoUXi6o%3D
starting to drop a tad here...
22941 is the key for a lower low imvho....if it goes below that we could see a stronger move down...
atb, wdik,dyor,
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #16813
by Trendfriend
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Good post Libero....i think its better to keep a neutral mind set when trading....unlike me!! 
going to be an interesting last hour....
cometh the hour....cometh the dump!
lets see...atb,
trendfriend
going to be an interesting last hour....
cometh the hour....cometh the dump!
lets see...atb,
trendfriend
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