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10 years 11 months ago #12160 by SirRichardBunson
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Thank you very much Ocean10 for the links and the book suggestions ,, I am currently reading David Lintons book re Cloud Charts which is great ,,, I will have a look at your other links later ,,, thanks again

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10 years 11 months ago - 10 years 11 months ago #12156 by Ocean10
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SirRichardBunson

Below is a link of a point and figure presentation by David Linton in case you have not come across this one vimeo.com/95377214 , which I find helpful. You will also find other educational material if you access the link.

If you are really interested in P&F then you should perhaps consider the 2 books by Jeremy Du Plessis, one of which is brand new (published last month):
www.amazon.co.uk/Definitive-Guide-Point-...ensive/dp/0857192450
www.amazon.com/21st-Century-Point-Figure...niques/dp/0857194429

The above information will make more sense if you have the Updata software which has P&F chart, please note I am not marketing the Updata software nor the books, this is in response to requested information.

GL Ocean
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10 years 11 months ago #12155 by SirRichardBunson
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Could I be really cheeky and ask if either of you get 5 mins over the weekend to put a P&F chart up for Lloyds please,,,, it would be much appreciated ..

I have also just seen Lintons video thanks to Monkeyz but are there any other websites where P&F is explained and that you would recommend ,,

Many thanks

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10 years 11 months ago #12153 by Monkeyz
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Great post FT.

David Linton who runs Updata has a video on YouTube which discusses P&F and cloud charts a bit more.

Cheers,
M.
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10 years 11 months ago #12152 by SirRichardBunson
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farmertim ,,,, really appreciate you taking the time to put the above together and explaining the current interpretation ,,, its going to take me a while to get my head around that so I will come back to you later if I have any questions , if GKP does develop over the next few weeks (either way) I for one would appreciate it if yourself and Ocean 10 could update the situation with the relevant P&F charts ,,, thanks again
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10 years 11 months ago #12151 by farmertim
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Good evening to you SRB, I will try to add to the comments already posted.
P&F is quite theoretically straight forward. Each column is created by the close of the time frame, not the full movement like candlesticks.



On the daily chart you can see the target of 128. This is not active as yet, it requires a daily close above 55.7 without closing below 35.59. If that does occur the target is removed.

On the chart there are two further bearish targets in play, 26 and 11. The significant numbers to nullify these targets are 84.59 and 109.57. From a P&F perspective, a daily close above those figures are essential for changing the tune of this share.

The 1 min P&F charts work on a one minute basis.



The strong rise has created two bullish targets of 82 and 98, as it stands both are active. 98 will stay active as long as the share does not drop below 42.58 for more than a minute and 34.89 for 82 (not showing on this picture).
A bullish target of 73.59 is also given but is NOT active yet as the price has not passed back above 54.06. This target will be taken off if the price goes below 46.1.
Interestingly there is a little cluster of targets at 44.3. The fib retracement of 61.8% from the high of 61.12 to the low of 34.5 is in the region of 44.6



The more targets to a particular region give it greater importance. Those targets will be taken off if the price rises above the column of 0 that created them. It is important to see the targets for what they are- theoretical targets. I have overly enthusiastically been too confident of trading in the direction of the targets from time to time. It is imperative if you are going to trade on the basis of the targets you recognise when the picture has changed. If the targets are invalidated your trade should end. The beauty of them is the clear defined buy and sell signals as well as helping to define your risk reward (a lecture for another day!)

I hope this gives a little insight to the very very basic functioning, I will endeavour to continue to explain further as the chart presents an opportunity. If anyone is serious about P&F I recommend the Definitive Guide to Point and Figure by Jeremy DuPlesis. Its a good book for putting you to sleep but you will probably never need another!

I hope this short explanation has not confused things further for all. I will try to answer any specific questions as they arise for folk.

Best wishes all

ft
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