Oh! I know of this!

It sounds like a good idea - but you know my concerns TF, when it comes to gold, one (how posh! ) would prefer to have access to it or possession of it.

Anything else is no different to trading it (CfDs, SB, ETFs, proxies etc).

I recall Paitech used to like Gold - any comments Paitech?

Trendfriend wrote:

Libero, et all...

what do you folks make of this??

www.tallymoney.com/

its got good reviews...thinking of trying it....
not something to put loads into off course...but a small amount maybe...maybe

atb, wdik, dyor,
trendfriend

Hey Folks,

Gold in terms of Pounds (£ / GBP) has reached [modern] All-Time-Highs.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard or purchased anything from a company called "Hattons of London"?

The director is one and the same from a troubled company called "London Mint" - not to be confused with the Royal Mint, which ironically was a retailer trick.

Anyway, there it is.

Safe Trading Folks!

Although a lot of people perceive gold bullion as the large gold bars held at FortKnox, it’s actually any form of pure or almost pure gold that has been certified for its purity and weight. So it can be coins or bars of any size with a serial number.



Source: www.itrader.com/en/article/gold-trading

MRA4 wrote:
Forgive me, but the best way of owning the physical stuff is to have it within your grasp.

The ownership of gold is partly motivated by a distrust of the powers that be, so why on earth would I want to buy gold and entrusted it within an inherently corrupt system or proxy of that system?

To each his own I guess. I've purchased physical, but lost it in a.... boating accident.

I've looked at the GBP Ounce chart of gold & wonder if the Spot price of Gold will always be related to what you pay for the Physical stuff & what you can do to Avoid investing in paper gold?

www.dropbox.com/s/91zhe10cygnuy5z/Ounce%20Gold%20GBP.png?dl=0

Has anyone used the Royal Mint's trading website for trading in Physical Gold, is this the best way of owning the physical stuff without actually having it laying about in your home.

www.royalmintbullion.com

www.royalmint.com/aboutus/news/the-royal...lion-trading-service

you can let them store it for you

www.royalmintbullion.com/What-Is-Signature-Gold

Bargain!!!!! Grab while you still can with no Vat on silver,I did not believe this at first,I phoned my usual coin dealer about it and he tells me it's upsetting him.

www.silver-to-go.com

The silver is posted from Germany but very reasonable carriage

I my view its a vat scam loophole that has been found so may not last for to long.

Worst case in my view is that if you are happy to buy silver now in uk a 20% drop from here will take things to crazy places in this mad world,If you are Russian you would be very happy right now owning precious metals,our time will come i think during the election time when in my guess the pound will fall against the dollar.I wish everyone a great Xmas & New year

Came across this site with updated calculator on what they pay for scrap silver,Not that i am selling any, only hoarding lol

www.birminghamsilvercompany.co.uk

And this is where i reckon the the Jewellers go

www.capellaltd.co.uk/services/looking-to-buy/

www.valcambigold.com/category/38-best-selling-products.aspx

Link for buying them ,Go on you no you want one

Last month's articles(one of which only just emailed to me by a friend)might be of interest,and certainly more portable and safer than the larger 12.5 kg bars @ £431,135 odd!

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Tiny gold bars latest rage for jittery investors
Fri, Dec 21 2012 By Oliver Hirt

Dec 21 (Reuters) - Private investors in Switzerland, Austria and Germany are lining up to buy gold bars the size of a credit card that can easily be broken into one gram pieces and used as payment in an emergency.

Now Swiss refinery Valcambi, a unit of U.S. mining giant Newmont, wants to bring its "CombiBar" to market in the United States and build up its sales presence India - the world's largest consumer of gold where the precious metal has long served as a parallel currency.

Investors worried that inflation and financial market turmoil will wipe out the value of their cash have poured money into gold over the past decade. Prices have gained almost 500 percent since 2001 compared to a 12 percent increase in MSCI's world equity index.

Sales of gold bars and coins were worth almost $77 billion in 2011, up from just $3.5 billion in 2002, according to data from the World Gold Council.

"The rich are buying standard bars or have deposits of phsyical gold. People that have less money are buying up to 100 grams," said Michael Mesaric, CEO of Valcambi "But for many people a pure investment product is no longer enough. They want to be able to do something with the precious metal."

Mesaric said the advantage of the "CombiBar" - which has been dubbed a "chocolate bar" because pieces can be easily broken off by hand into one gram squares - is that it can be easily transported and costs less than buying 50 one gram bars.

"The produce can also be used as an alternative method of payment," he said.

Valcambi is building a sales network in India and plans to launch the CombiBar on the U.S. market next year. In Japan, it wants to focus on CombiBars made of platinum and palladium.

Elsewhere, demand is particularly strong among Germans, still scarred by post-World War One hyperinflation, when money became all but worthless and it took a wheelbarrow full of notes to buy a loaf of bread.

"Above all, it's people aged between 40 and 70 that are investing in gold bars and coins," said Mesaric. "They've heard tales from their parents about wars and crises devaluing money."

CRISIS PAYMENT

The CombiBar is particularly popular among grandparents who want to give their grandchildren a strip of gold rather than a coin, said Andreas Habluetzel head of the Swiss business of Degussa, a gold trading company.

Other customers buy gold for security reasons.

"Demand is rising every week," Habluetzel said. "Particularly in Germany, people buying gold fear that the euro will break apart or that banks will run into problems."

Some fund managers, however, remain sceptical.

Stephan Mueller, who manages bank Julius Baer's $6 billion gold fund, said one problem with using gold as a method of payment is that people have to take its value on blind trust.

"Gold is a useful store of value," Mueller said. "However I doubt whether it will succeed as a method of payment."

Nonetheless, as developments in the euro zone lurch from one crisis to another, demand for gold that can be sold in vending machines is also growing.

"Sales rise according to the temperature of the crisis," said Thomas Geissler, whose firm Ex Oriente Lux operates 17 gold vending machines in Europe, the United States and the United Arab Emirates.

The machines saw record sales in 2010, one day after the then Deutsche Bank CEO Josef Ackermann raised doubts over whether Greece would be able to pay its debts.

Since the launch of the machines, which operate under the name "GOLD to go", 50,000 customers have withdrawn more than 21 million euros in gold. The average buyer is male, over 50 years old and well off.

"Customers are hoarding gold mostly at home as a precaution against a crisis, just as their fathers and grandfathers did before them," Geissler said.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/21/swiss...dUSL5E8NL4N820121221

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See some pictures at Dailymail:-

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-...euro-goes-under.html

Being from Guernsey I can vouch for these guys.

www.guernseymint.com/

A few websites I still have linked on my desktop from when I looked at buying some gold/silver coins early last year. However, I decided better to be in cash and trade in and out of equities and buy more properties with profits.(2014 should be the bottom of the property market and next top could be 2025).

Following rip offs around the world, please check you are buying real gold and real silver from a trusted source!!!!

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Additional buying links:-

(Blackpool based)
www.taxfreegold.co.uk/index.html

(Strand, London based)
www.atsbullion.com/

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Additional info (charts)on gold and silver:-

(Luxembourg based editorial, since 2005,free gold & silver charts in varying currencies)
www.24hgold.com/english/gold_silver_pric...s.aspx?money=GBPound

(articles about fiat currencies by James Turk)
fgmr.com/

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This is a post i made at the time of me buying silver from coin invest and the initial hassle i had

Ok things get a little complicated organising payment to Via Mat the people that i have used to organise delivery for me , you have to pay them in euros,I could have paid with my rbs bank account but they charge to much and the exchange rate is crap,they offered me 1.22 something euros to the pound, i opened account with www.currencytfair.com Must say i highly recommend them!! I transferred £200 with them and exchanged into euros,received €255.96
I transferred money to via mat total cost €183.97 plus €8 for transfer to be done today €3 if you can wait 3 to 4 buisness day's i could not take that risk as i had to pay via mat by 02/08/2012 so to sum it all up total cost with delivery for nearly 5kg of silver & gold about £4819 all in,126.46 oz of silver and 2 oz of gold,if i bought from Atkinson's i would have paid around £5217.29 Coins i bought 2 x 1oz kangaroo gold,1 x 1kg libertad silver,10 x 1oz britannia silver,1 x 1kg lunar dragon,1 x 10oz lunar dragon,1 x 10oz kookaburra,now i got to ask myself why in the hell did i not buy more silver,grrrrrr,Anyhow next time i will be a bit wiser

How about vat free silver from Holland,to be honest even with vat free coin invest works out cheaper,Anyone know of a dealer in holland with prices that can match coin invest for silver ??

www.doijerkalff.nl/en/silver-maple-leaf-1-oz.html

For coin capsules i have bought from www.coingallery.co.uk again very competitive in price

In UK i find Atkinsons to be very competitive
www.atkinsonsthejewellers.com

www.coininvestdirect.com/en/

Best for silver buying in Germany 7% vat if you organise to get picked up yourself,You can use a courier as long as you do the organising.Also a trade show in November that they will have coins for sale that can be picked up on the day.

Munich in November there is a
International Precious Metals & Commodities Show in Munich – 2nd & 3rd November 2012

Visit us on the 2nd & 3rd November 2012 at the International Precious Metals & Commodities Show in Munich. The event is exclusively dedicated to investments in precious metals and commodities. Meet renowned experts from Germany and abroad, find out about new trends from exhibitors

You can buy with cash no identity needed etc Bit late in the day but i am sure there will be other shows