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Charting Accuracy 25 Oct 2013 18:48 #1

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Hey Remo (and fellow MetaStock fans!)

It looks like the 2-month deadline deal finished on Sept 27 or thereabouts... So my attempt at the end of september only got me a month.

I got in touch with MetaStock, and they were very good I have to say.

We reached a compromise deal where by I get a four month trial for $250.

If I'm not happy after that I can walk away. Hopefully this will give me some time really test-drive the beast, because right, I've only had a cursory look (and mostly from the Reuters side).

Anyway, all in all, top class service.
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Charting Accuracy 06 Oct 2013 10:54 #2

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Hi Libero
Get in touch with them.
If you have the metastock pro then there is no need for the fx data. Its included.(i think) i get confused with there products as well.They have too much choice so can get confusing.
MetaStock XENITH European, Middle Eastern, & African Data: $1440.00 this is the one for you i think.
The last one im not sure why thats there for.

Make certain you get the 2 months free deal and make certain you cancel the package before the expiry as they will charge you. They are really good on customer service so just give them a ring.
If your lucky then they may offer another deal if you take it up like buy 1 month and get 3 months.

They do have level 2 for the uk but i would not recommend it. Level 2 is best used on the US Markets as they have a lot more info for the US markets.

I see you have discovered xenith...its amazing. This alone is worth the $1440 subscription charge a year for metastock pro which will include reuters news and all. ;) ;) Its one hell of a platform and very additive.Its more powerful than people actually realize. You have probably just touched the tip of what it can do.

Metastock charting is as powerful as well but i only use it for simple charting. There is a lot to this as well and more than people actually realize.Plenty of systems on there and you can buy loads of add ons to improve it. All the big technical authors have an add on for metastock.

Any way
play around with it ,im sure you will find new things that im nor aware of ;) Let me know if you find any thing useful ;)
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Charting Accuracy 04 Oct 2013 14:08 #3

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Hi Remo,

Not sure I should get in touch with MetaStock, but I received this in an e-mail:
Our records indicate that your annual subscription to one or more of MetaStock’s products is nearing its annual renewal date.
On November 1, 2013, your subscription(s) to the following product(s) will automatically renew at the listed price:
MetaStock XENITH FX Data: $950.00
MetaStock XENITH European, Middle Eastern, & African Data: $1440.00
MetaStock XENITH Worldwide Futures, Commodities, & Derivatives Data (Discounted): $720.00


I signed up before the offer period ended, and not sure if I signed up for all this lot :woohoo: as I specifically copied your settings :evil: ...

Anyway, I'm sure if I get in touch with them they'll sorted it out.

Now, I've barely had a chance to tinker with MetaStock, but that Reuters platform....Wow.

I mean I've neglected everything I'm supposed to do (apart from keeping up my impeccable hygiene of course! :P ), but seriously, really loving this platform!!!

It is far too addictive... I wonder if there's DMA / L2 functionality?

Superb stuff... Cheers Remo!
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Charting Accuracy 30 Sep 2013 23:38 #4

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remo wrote:
hi libero
these are the feeds that im signed up for.

London Stock Exchange Level 1 Domestic $6.81 Monthly subscription
For all the stocks


FTSE International Indices $4.68 Monthly subscription
This ones for the index live feeds i think.

Morgan Stanley Indices End of Day $.00 Monthly subscription
NYSE Euronext Global Index Service $.00 Monthly subscription


hope that helps.

Done. :cheer:

With Caveats However.... Installation warnings. I'm on a Unix platform running a hardened native 64-bit version of windows, with 64-bit software, etc etc - but I'm guessing that MetaStock prefers a 32-bit vanilla OS, judging by the installer warnings.

Also, traffic runs through a different port to 80 (HTTP) or 443 (HTTPS), and this might give me a headache at work. Let's see if there's a solution.

Hopefully it should be fine. I just booted it up, and it is running ok, it reminds me of Bloomberg! I've attached a screen shot of .... Yep, GLENCORE! :P

I've got a three-screen (27" flanked by 2 x 24" rotated vertically) set up at work and at home, so I wonder if this program is accommodating in that regard?

Already lamenting the lack of time to really get under the hood of this program, even with 2 months gratis, the test is to find the time to really use it.

Lots to experiment with... Anyway, let's see I'll get on, and I'll report back in the afternoon as I start work at 5am tomorrow!


Once again Remo (and Ronnie!), thank you both for sorting out this amazing deal.

p.s. Weird, I've got myself a trial demo of ProRealTime recently, and it looks like a neat package too. The Agony of Choice. ;)
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Charting Accuracy 27 Sep 2013 13:49 #5

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Just to add to this, when you take out MetaStock Pro you have access to every share known to man. What you are paying for is the exchanges that provide live prices otherwise if you don't pay then it would be delayed by 15 mins but you still have access to every single share,currency, commodity etc.

Far as I'm aware F/X is included when you take out MetaStock Pro so you don't need to add it on.
If your uncertain about anything just ask them on the live help desk as they are very helpful, if they are not just let us know as we have other contacts.
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Charting Accuracy 27 Sep 2013 08:47 #6

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hi libero
these are the feeds that im signed up for.

London Stock Exchange Level 1 Domestic $6.81 Monthly subscription
For all the stocks


FTSE International Indices $4.68 Monthly subscription
This ones for the index live feeds i think.

Morgan Stanley Indices End of Day $.00 Monthly subscription
NYSE Euronext Global Index Service $.00 Monthly subscription


hope that helps.
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Charting Accuracy 27 Sep 2013 08:33 #7

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Libero wrote:
Hi Remo,

I'm firmly on board with taking up the two month trial offer. However I aborted an initial attempt to sign up yesterday, because I became impatient with the seemingly long-winded sign up process, and wasn't sure what the package was offering me what in terms of exchanges, duplicate markets, whether payment is centralised etc...

For example, when I selected the F/X add on, it won't let me select other markets. When I selected European Markets, it didn't let me select F/X. Maybe I was a bit tired after a long day, and didn't grasp things properly.

I have been at work for 24 hours straight yesterday, and that might have been a source of irritation mind! :woohoo:

I'll give it another bash tomorrow (and I might Private Message you as I might have a question or two regarding the sign up process, such as what options to take on, and the integrity of the payment process, paying for the package then paying for the exchanges etc..)

Anyway, as I said, I'm on board, but got frustrated with the process (although I appreciate that I need to be patient!).

Cheers!

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Hi libero
There sign up process is confusing. Ive complained to them about it a few times now.
dont worry about the forex as if you go for metastock pro it comes with all the forex anyway.
You dont have to pay for the software while on the trial.You do have to pay for the LSE exchange fee which works out at about $7 per month.This gives you the live feed for your charts.
The news feeds all come from Reuters so you dont have to pay for them as they are part of the trial.
If you get stuck then use there live chat help desk and as there based in america there available from after 1.30pm Uk time till really late.
The package im using is the metastock pro. If you do speak to them then just say your from chartsview and want to trial the same package that im on. Hopefully they should know me and will put you on the same package.
Ill try and find out what exactly im on and let you know latter. So that the process would be easier for you.
I dont think there help desk is open in the weekend so best do it during the week.
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Charting Accuracy 27 Sep 2013 00:19 #8

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Hi Remo,

I'm firmly on board with taking up the two month trial offer. However I aborted an initial attempt to sign up yesterday, because I became impatient with the seemingly long-winded sign up process, and wasn't sure what the package was offering me what in terms of exchanges, duplicate markets, whether payment is centralised etc...

For example, when I selected the F/X add on, it won't let me select other markets. When I selected European Markets, it didn't let me select F/X. Maybe I was a bit tired after a long day, and didn't grasp things properly.

I have been at work for 24 hours straight yesterday, and that might have been a source of irritation mind! :woohoo:

I'll give it another bash tomorrow (and I might Private Message you as I might have a question or two regarding the sign up process, such as what options to take on, and the integrity of the payment process, paying for the package then paying for the exchanges etc..)

Anyway, as I said, I'm on board, but got frustrated with the process (although I appreciate that I need to be patient!).

Cheers!

:)
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Charting Accuracy 26 Sep 2013 23:52 #9

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The metastock 2 month free trials will end on the 31st sept. After this you will only get 1 month trials.

Jackozy....metastock is way more powerful and value for money than Updata . Initially the cost is similar but once you purchase metastock then all you will be paying for is the anual subscription which is about £900 a year this includes all the data and all the real time news that Reuters provide. The research side of zeneth is amazing.It finds all the info you will ever need about any company.All the fundamental info you could ever want.The news package alone is worth the £900 a year . Its not just a charting package.I know you did not like the feel of metastock before. I was the same but once I got used to it ,it's not so bad. It's a very powerful piece of kit which I must confess I don't use. I'm more of a chartist so for me that's all I need it for. I don't use any of the add ons which can make it so much more powerful. Theres more to it than people realise.
Like I said the 2 months free trial will end in a few days time so if you have not trailed it then please do.
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Charting Accuracy 26 Sep 2013 15:55 #10

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That sounds about right :)
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Charting Accuracy 26 Sep 2013 12:42 #11

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Summary for those who don't want to read my rant...

IG's index charts (whether their own or PRT's version of their data) are FUTURES charts ie include out of hours prices.

PRT's own EOD index charts are cash charts ie market hours only.

Metastock and Updata (and Stockcharts too I think) are cash charts ie market hours only.

Is that right?

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Charting Accuracy 26 Sep 2013 12:37 #12

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That's hilarious!

My IG version of PRT has a daily low on 8th August 2011 of 4824.8!!!

Next day's low was 4719.4.

I know these could differ from remo's since they're futures prices, but there's no consistency even between PRT's own charts!

Actually, I just checked IG Market's own, basic, chart and mine shows a ftse low on 8/8/2011 at 4825.8 and a low next day at 4720.4.

From this I'm deducing that IG's version of PRT uses IG's data and plots it on PRT format charts...PRT's independent charts (ie their own) uses different data and then we've also got remo's cash charts (and the updata ones I used to have which are also cash).

So, IG's PRT is really just a prettier version of IG's own charts.

This is all carp. As soon as I get my new SSD I think it's time to trial Metastock again. I fell out with updata because they wanted over £1500 a year and the only real advantage of them was intraday stock charts (since I've started using futures charts for indices anyway and I don't trade FX much but you can get decent FX charts anywhere) and share are best traded using daily charts anyway imho. So it seemed pretty pointless to pay all that for something I don't think I need.

On the other hand, I could just use ADVFN's charts since I pay them for L2 anyway and the charts come included on a real time basis.

Perhaps IG's PRT charts for indices, commods and FX and PRT's own charts for EOD shares cross referenced with ADVFN prices for anomalies?

Or pay for Metastock even though I didn't like it last time...(and I've not been trading much recently anyway)

Decisions, decisions, decisions....

Perhaps crayons might to the trick...or a blindfold, a pin and a picture of a donkey....
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Charting Accuracy 26 Sep 2013 10:21 #13

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aug 8th
high 5295.78
low 5062.42

The next day the low was 4791


dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4899609/aug8th2011.png

hope this helps
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Charting Accuracy 26 Sep 2013 07:42 #14

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Following on from the BARC posting ... I notice IG daily charts show a low for the FTSE on 8th Aug 2011 at 4720.4. The PRT end-of-day low for the same day is 5062.42, with the lowest low for that period coming the next day, Aug 9th, at 4791.01.

Can anyone either verify any of these figures or, more probably, throw in a few more variations for the same days?

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