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RSI Divergences
12 years 9 months ago #5735
by diver993
Replied by diver993 on topic RSI Divergences
I should also have mentioned the RSI divergence on that five way wave 5 as just posted:)
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12 years 9 months ago #5734
by diver993
Mmmmm...... looks like 5 waves to me
The label for the current wave is undecided and will be clarified when the top is ultimately achieved.
There is no rule of divergence in EWT as stated in 1938 for the simple reason I have already stated at the outset: there was no RSI until 1978. My point was, and is, had the RSI been in existence I'm 100% certain Mr Elliott would have made it a rule.
Replied by diver993 on topic RSI Divergences
Mmmmm...... looks like 5 waves to me
The label for the current wave is undecided and will be clarified when the top is ultimately achieved.
There is no rule of divergence in EWT as stated in 1938 for the simple reason I have already stated at the outset: there was no RSI until 1978. My point was, and is, had the RSI been in existence I'm 100% certain Mr Elliott would have made it a rule.
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12 years 9 months ago #5733
by Jackozy
Replied by Jackozy on topic RSI Divergences
You've labelled the move down to 2009 lows as a (b) wave but you've also labelled it as an impulse (motive) wave. A wave B of any degree is ALWAYS corrective and cannot have a motive form (ie 5 waves).
You've labelled the move up from 03/2009 to 04/2010 as an A wave. This needs to have the form of either an abc (as you appear to have labelled it) or a motive 5 wave form. In the abc case your c wave would need to be motive (ie have 5 subwaves) but yours has only 3. This is not an acceptable form for a c wave . It's OK for a W, Y or Z but that's not how you're labelling your count.
Your rules of counting are also suggesting the this current move to all times highs is a large degree wave ((a)) which would then require a wave ((b)) down followed by a ((c)) up. In other words, you've got the whole move up from 2009 lows as a corrective sequence but what is it correcting against if it's at all time highs at an ((a)) wave with further massive highs to come for the ((c))?
You're correct that there was no >50% retrace in the move I highlighted but there's no rule that says a wave 2 MUST be >50%. There's the guideline of alternation which suggests that 2 should normally have the opposite form from 4 but, again, that's not a rule.
There are no circumstances in EWT which allow for a wave A of any degree to be at an all time high. A wave B can be, but not an A. An A wave after an uptrend MUST end lower than the previous trend high.
Of course, all of these problems (and others I've not mentioned) would go away if only you drop your rule about RSI divergences. There is no such rule.
Is it not really much more likely that the sequence I posted is an impulse wave? It doesn't break any EWT rules to have it as such whereas your count does.
I do accept, as I've stated, that RSI divergence are often seen as you describe but they aren't a requirement. There seems little point in repeating this so I'll leave it at that. RSI wasn't even invented when Elliott devised his theory so it's impossible for it to have been a fundamental requirement of it.
GL.
You've labelled the move up from 03/2009 to 04/2010 as an A wave. This needs to have the form of either an abc (as you appear to have labelled it) or a motive 5 wave form. In the abc case your c wave would need to be motive (ie have 5 subwaves) but yours has only 3. This is not an acceptable form for a c wave . It's OK for a W, Y or Z but that's not how you're labelling your count.
Your rules of counting are also suggesting the this current move to all times highs is a large degree wave ((a)) which would then require a wave ((b)) down followed by a ((c)) up. In other words, you've got the whole move up from 2009 lows as a corrective sequence but what is it correcting against if it's at all time highs at an ((a)) wave with further massive highs to come for the ((c))?
You're correct that there was no >50% retrace in the move I highlighted but there's no rule that says a wave 2 MUST be >50%. There's the guideline of alternation which suggests that 2 should normally have the opposite form from 4 but, again, that's not a rule.
There are no circumstances in EWT which allow for a wave A of any degree to be at an all time high. A wave B can be, but not an A. An A wave after an uptrend MUST end lower than the previous trend high.
Of course, all of these problems (and others I've not mentioned) would go away if only you drop your rule about RSI divergences. There is no such rule.
Is it not really much more likely that the sequence I posted is an impulse wave? It doesn't break any EWT rules to have it as such whereas your count does.
I do accept, as I've stated, that RSI divergence are often seen as you describe but they aren't a requirement. There seems little point in repeating this so I'll leave it at that. RSI wasn't even invented when Elliott devised his theory so it's impossible for it to have been a fundamental requirement of it.
GL.
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12 years 9 months ago #5728
by diver993
Replied by diver993 on topic RSI Divergences
Ha! Ha! Now I just know you know the answer to that 
.....because it's an A wave. Check out what you are labeling wave 2 and you will find it didn't even retrace to 38.2%, a first indication this is not a motive wave as most wave 2's retrace to at least 50%. No divergence on the RSI between your waves 3 and 5 and it's a cast iron ABC. Check out the C wave to W and you will see a perfect example of a motive wave; as was the wave ( b ) of the move from 2007 to 2009.
Have a good day mate
I'm doing some decorating
.....because it's an A wave. Check out what you are labeling wave 2 and you will find it didn't even retrace to 38.2%, a first indication this is not a motive wave as most wave 2's retrace to at least 50%. No divergence on the RSI between your waves 3 and 5 and it's a cast iron ABC. Check out the C wave to W and you will see a perfect example of a motive wave; as was the wave ( b ) of the move from 2007 to 2009.
Have a good day mate
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12 years 9 months ago #5727
by Jackozy
Replied by Jackozy on topic RSI Divergences
Here's an example of how a 3rd wave didn't extend to a minimum of 1.618 of wave 1 and also didn't have a bearish RSI divergence:
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20815047/Dow.gif
There was also no divergence on the daily chart between these 2 peaks.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20815047/Dow.gif
There was also no divergence on the daily chart between these 2 peaks.
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12 years 9 months ago #5721
by Jackozy
Replied by Jackozy on topic RSI Divergences
Here's an example of a negative RSI divergence on POG's daily chart:
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